Talk:AFOH/@comment-27822653-20141012044735/@comment-14850713-20141016161445

And to those who keep on insisting that we don't understand Hansa, my answer is we understand it perfectly. As I replied to Doc, we in AFOH accept the difference in toughness and firepower. But if we all acknowledge the difference between a 1 million toughness Hansa ship with a 7000 toughness vanilla, then we should also accept the difference between a 5 knot flying ship and one that goes 40 knots, or a ship that goes up to 2000m and one that goes to 5000m. To be sure, the toughness or firepower differential may actually be 2-3x and not 1000x (as Owl and others have pointed out) so we also can't have a flying ship that runs rings around another, but 5-10 knots should be a fair and possibly decisive but not unbeatable difference.