Talk:AIF/@comment-12161342-20150403124128/@comment-11135771-20150404005829

@TATO: Supersubs without above-water ballast are possible to make, although they take a really long time to submerge. I successfully made a copy of the Mantis-class battlecarrier (on the SAA page) into a fully capable submarine a long time ago. My technique is to pretty much just have a lot of MCMs, 204cms, and doomsday cannons on the ship, supported by downward propellers. They're all very high density and help a lot with submerging.