User blog comment:Void Samukai/The 7 key BBs in history/@comment-14850713-20160120073340/@comment-27822411-20160120110724

I thought that the Warrior was recognised by the rest of the world as the father, or mother, of all the metal battleships, mainly because she was included in my "World's Greatest Battleships". Though this is the same book that classifies the Duestchland class panzerschiffs as BBs and considers the Courageous class a good BCs. While the Deutsches were in my eyes cruisers, some do see them as light BCs. And they did perform well I guess. But the Courageous?! They shouldn't be in any greatest Warship book. Unless it is Greatest failures. Thin armour, weak firepower and above all structure weaknesses make her rather bad. And Furious would've been much worse, had she not been converted during construction.

The reason I chose Warrior instead of Gloire is that Gloire was a wooden ship with armour plating, while Warrior's hull was made from iron. But as for the first ocean going ironclad, Gloire beat Warrior easily.

The Japanese Satsuma class was actually laid down before either Dreadnought or South Carolina, but due to finacial difficulties, she was completed much later as a semi dreadnought. Still, they were one of the first to quickly pick up from the lessons learnt at Tsushima.