Thread:Sambobsung/@comment-1715389-20130715023418/@comment-1715389-20130716092321

Which is funny, since irl there's only be one instance in which a jet has shot down a jet fighter in combat:

During the Iran-Iraq war, an Iranian F-4 Phantom II was shot down in a gun duel by an Iraqi Mi-24 Hind, which is even more remarkable because the Hind is a VERY heavy helicopter (the Russians call it the "Flying Tank" for a reason) and so it handles like a brick compared to...say...an Apache. What this means is that the pilot of the Hind was DAMNED good.

This incident, apparently, inspired part of the intro to Metal Gear Solid, in which a Hind flown by Liquid Snake and an unnamed soldier shoot down a pair of F-16s (from one of which Vulcan Raven ripped the cannon out of and used as a personal weapon)